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May 2012

YO SUP: I'M OUT.

BRHood: Not just for the night.

For a few weeks.

Or the summer. 

I’ll be around to contribute to Fanart Friday.

Because I have friends who want to contribute.

As well as what is Fanart Friday without Nathan Seymour?

God I love him.

But for real, I need a break.

So I hope the other mods keep you entertained for a while!

Don’t miss me too much.

Loljk I know you won’t.

-batman out-

May 30, 201211 notes
#Mod: BRHood #announcements
I have a serious question. How is it alright to condemn ppl for making colored characters white but it is alright to exalt artists who make white characters colored? Isnt that the same exact thing? I also question the attitude that a bi racial child MUST reflect ethnicity of both parents even though this is not genetically true and that an artist who portrays a white child that has a colored parent is a racist. please correct me if you do not promote that attitude

BRHood: It’s funny because CC sent me here to handle this mess, but I am in a BAD mood. So to keep your feelings for being hurt, remember that as you read this.

1) To answer your first question, FAQ. The next person who sends us an ask that is answered in our FAQ, you will just get cursed out. No ifs ands or buts. We have a FAQ for a reason. If literacy is an issue, then explain that and we can dismiss it. But I doubt you do. So FAQ. FAQ. FAQ.

2) Yes, biracial children are not white. Duh. I don’t even know why you came to our ask with this.

3) Capslocking this part. 

IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU USED THE WORD “COLORED” NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE FUCKING TIMES? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? ARE YOU NOT AWARE THAT REFERRING TO PEOPLE OF COLOR AS “COLORED” IS A RACIAL SLUR TODAY? ARE YOU THAT FUCKING BASIC?

True talk, be glad it wasn’t CC who answered this. Because then things would be a lot uglier than this.

And for real, no asks unless you’ve read the FAQ. For real.

May 30, 201212 notes
#asks
Study finds TV can decrease self esteem in children, except white boys → eurekalert.org

If you are a white girl, a black girl or a black boy, exposure to today’s electronic media in the long run tends to make you feel worse about yourself. If you’re a white boy, you’ll feel better, according to a new study led by an Indiana University professor.

Nicole Martins, an assistant professor of telecommunications in the IU College of Arts and Sciences, and Kristen Harrison, professor of communication studies at the University of Michigan, also found that black children in their study spent, on average, an extra 10 hours a week watching television.

“We can’t deny the fact that media has an influence when they’re spending most of their time — when they’re not in school — with the television,” Martins said.

Harrison added, “Children who are not doing other things besides watching television cannot help but compare themselves to what they see on the screen.”

Their paper has been published in Communication Research. Martins and Harrison surveyed a group of about 400 black and white preadolescent students in communities in the Midwest over a yearlong period. Rather than look at the impact of particular shows or genres, they focused on the correlation between the time in front of the TV and the impact on their self-esteem.

“Regardless of what show you’re watching, if you’re a white male, things in life are pretty good for you,” Martins said of characters on TV. “You tend to be in positions of power, you have prestigious occupations, high education, glamorous houses, a beautiful wife, with very little portrayals of how hard you worked to get there.

“If you are a girl or a woman, what you see is that women on television are not given a variety of roles,” she added. “The roles that they see are pretty simplistic; they’re almost always one-dimensional and focused on the success they have because of how they look, not what they do or what they think or how they got there.

“This sexualization of women presumably leads to this negative impact on girls.”

With regard to black boys, they are often criminalized in many programs, shown as hoodlums and buffoons, and without much variety in the kinds of roles they occupy.

“Young black boys are getting the opposite message: that there is not lots of good things that you can aspire to,” Martins said. “If we think about those kinds of messages, that’s what’s responsible for the impact.

“If we think just about the sheer amount of time they’re spending, and not the messages, these kids are spending so much time with the media that they’re not given a chance to explore other things they’re good at, that could boost their self-esteem.”

Martins said their study counters claims by producers that programs have been progressive in their depictions of under-represented populations. An earlier study co-authored by her and Harrison suggests that video games “are the worst offenders when it comes to representation of ethnicity and gender.”

Other research is starting to show the impacts of other kinds of entertainment sources, such as video games and hand-held devices. It indicates that young people are becoming creative at “media multitasking.”

“Even though these new technologies are becoming more available, kids still spend more time with TV than anything else,” Martins said.

Interestingly, the young people were asked about their consumption of print media, but the results were not statistically significant.

Martins conducted the research while she was completing her Ph.D. at the University of Illinois, as part of a larger longitudinal study done with her co-author, Harrison. They sought out certain school districts in Illinois because of their diversity, but African-Americans were the predominant minority group.

BRHood: WHAT’S THIS? A STUDY DONE TO SHOW JUST HOW DEVASTATING A WHITEWASHED MEDIA CAN HAVE ON POC’S SELF ESTEEM? REALLY?

May 30, 20122,245 notes
#The System the dissed us teaches us to read and write #keeping cana's tag because UGH #also #representation in the media #representation motherfucker; can you speak it?
I'm sorry. It was just a question. Like I said, I wasn't trying to anger anyone. As for the embarrassment, you just embarrassed me because I asked you a question you didn't like. I apologized in advance. I don't know how much more polite I can be. I didn't mean to make anyone upset, obviously, I was just trying to provide a different viewpoint. I don't mind if you don't like it, but I was surprised by the rudeness. Even though I admit I shouldn't have been, considering the attitude of this blog.

BRHood: You’re a stupid, basic, worthless bitch, and I’m going to tell you how. And I hope you’re so embarrassed that you cry your white women tears that keep me staying the Princess of Cute.

1) Your apology? “I’m sorry if this angers anyone.” I bolded “if” because that right there stops this from being an ACTUAL apology. You’re supposed to apologize because you recognize that you did something wrong and you regret your actions. You’re not apologizing for your actions. You’re faux-apologizing for the fact that we may take offense to what you say. This proves that a) you’re too basic to know how to properly apologize and b) that you do not care if your words hurt and upset others. That’s not polite. That’s being a condescending, narcissistic, sociopathic bitch. 

2) To further illustrate how sociopathic you are, you are more focused on the self esteems of these whitewashers, as well as your own embarrassment, to even BEGIN to sympathize with PoC people who are completely erased from the media. Instead of thinking “it might hurt PoC’s self esteem because whitewashing erases their identity and might make them feel inadequate and worthless,” you’re too busy thinking “Omg, these poor white artists who did racist things to hurt people might be young and you guys are so mean!” You need to sit down and figure out your priorities. Because considering how racism KILLS PoC, and being called out on whitewashing doesn’t, you need to recognize that your “different viewpoint” continues to HURT PoC. And it upholds the system that allows for PoC to be MURDERED. If you’re okay with being part of a system that murders PoC, then you obviously are a heartless human being.

3) Your tone policing bullshit is cute, but we shot that shit down months ago. Come back with something new. Because, again, considering how racism KILLS US, I don’t think we have to be nice about it. You want us to be “Oh, I see you guys are enforcing a system that wants us dead, but could you please stop that? No? You’ll continue? Okay. I respect your viewpoint.” Uh, no. You wanna be racist, then you’ll get called racist. We have no obligation to be nice to those who obviously could give two shits about us. Jim Crow is over and we ain’t jiving for y’all no more.

Next?

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May 30, 201226 notes
#asks

dumbthingswhitepplsay:

damnlayoffthebleach:

CC: :O I just realized

These kids are usually from the 14 year to 17 year age range

I’m nineteen

I’m pretty sure TWO YEARS AGO I still knew it was incorrect and problematic to lighten a character’s skin color and make shitty excuses for it.

Just saying

I don’t see where the whole “they’re children” bs is coming into play.

Also someone said in an ask we just received:

“If young dark children of color are old enough to internalize racism, white children and light skinned children are old enough to learn NOT to do that. Period.”

Brilliant. Perfectly fucking worded.

And in case you were wondering, it’s been proven that black and brown children internalize colorism as early as 4-6.

So unless your ass is 2, you ain’t got no damn excuse.

May 30, 201267 notes
CC: Vacay

I’ll be going on a break for about a month

Cause I’m beginning to hate everyone (more than usual anyway)

You all will be in the very very capable hands of four beautiful mods

They will treat you right

Love you slowly

Tenderly

Caress your interests and 

Slap a bitch who thinks it’s cool to fuck with you and your intelligence

Buh bye <3

May 30, 201212 notes
#CC #mod post

CC: :O I just realized

These kids are usually from the 14 year to 17 year age range

I’m nineteen

I’m pretty sure TWO YEARS AGO I still knew it was incorrect and problematic to lighten a character’s skin color and make shitty excuses for it.

Just saying

I don’t see where the whole “they’re children” bs is coming into play.

Also someone said in an ask we just received:

“If young dark children of color are old enough to internalize racism, white children and light skinned children are old enough to learn NOT to do that. Period.”

Brilliant. Perfectly fucking worded.

May 30, 201267 notes
#mod post #CC
Korra’s face looks “white” because of the fire. (Also take notice that her hair is “blonde” RIGHT WHERE THE FIRE IS). Also look at her arm in the front, part of it that’s further away from the fire is the closest to her darker skin color. And have you considered Yuumei's opinion/say of whitewashing.

CC: Could yall send post links and stop assuming we’ll automatically know what the fuck you’re talking about? And Yuumei’s a fucking moron, I read their response and it was a basic explanation of HOW they whitewashed the character. And then to “prove” they didn’t whitewash, they show us a darker skinned original character because that somehow invalidates whitewashing Korra?

Not even gonna dissect that bullshit because it’s been done before.

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May 30, 201212 notes
#asks
went through thirty one pages of your blog in one sitting (no regrets.)

CC: LOL I do that to other people’s blogs too. Thank you, glad you like!

May 30, 20124 notes
#asks
So I don't know how helpful it would be (and it isn't specifically about whitewashing) but the ask earlier did inspire me to write a tutorial on accepting criticism, if you're interested. Um. I can't link in asks, but it's on my blog, so. Also, I know I've said this before, but I love this blog on many levels and would like to hug you all.

CC: I’m reading it right now! Thank you!

May 30, 20123 notes
#asks
I have a question and I'm sorry if this angers anyone. But considering fanartists are often very young and probably don't know what whitewashing is, what is the use of publicly embarrassing their artwork (not in style, but still their artwork) and perhaps damaging their self-esteem? It seems people usually respond better to a clear explanation than humiliation or anger, and if your movement is to educate people, I don't think the public display with a biting critique will do that as efficiently.

CC: This is the problem I’m having with asks like this. 

1. The assumption that because they’re young, they don’t know that deliberately lightening someone’s skin color is wrong. Do I even need to explain how silly this is? These kids are what? 14-17 age range? You mean they don’t know that if they draw someone, LIGHTENING a character’s skin color because it “LOOKS BETTER” is problematic?

2. Okay, say I agreed with you on the first part. Say I agreed that they “don’t know”. WHO THE FUCK IS EMBARRASSING THEM? WHO IS DAMAGING THEIR SELF-ESTEEM? If I say “hey, that’s whitewashed and you should fix that”, that’s me EMBARRASSING an artist? How coddled do you want these people to fucking be? On a scale of one to ten, lemme know how stupid you are. We do not embarrass anyone. We don’t even criticize the style of their artwork. If you WHITEWASH, your artwork will be here. IF YOU FIX IT, send it back to us and we’ll feature it for Fanart Friday. Just the other day someone apologized for whitewashing a character in their artwork and I told them that once they fixed it, we’d be happy to feature if for Fanart Friday. This really not that fucking difficult. This is constructive criticism and if someone can’t handle that, why are they posting their artwork on a public site?

3. “People usually respond better to a clear explanation than humiliation or anger” WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE AND WHAT PLANET ARE THEY FROM. Cause every single time I or another one of the mods have called out whitewashing INDIVIDUALLY, we were shut down with ignorant statements and sometimes we received racial slurs in our ask boxes. So yeah, I don’t know what fantasy you’re living in but I’ll wait for you to come back and join us in the real world.

If you whitewash, you’ll end up here.

We have a tutorial section.

That’s all I’m offering at this point, I don’t have the spoons to babyfeed basic bitches.

May 30, 201210 notes
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I was really enjoying this blog until I saw the post of Wilt from Foster's Home of Imaginary Friends on page 11 and a discussion about voice actors was discussed in the comments section. One of the mods posted a photograph of Korra's voice actress, who is a white woman, and clearly stated (EW). This bothered me because I thought the point of this blog was that all people are beautiful and people shouldn't be ashamed of their race. I will continue this in another ask since I'm running out of room

This is a continuation of my ask about Korra’s voice actress. The comment of disgust about her color bothered me because this was NOT a white washed version of Korra; it was a photograph of an actual person, and she was still considered disgusting because of her skin color. I’ve read your FAQ and it claims you don’t hate white people, but I find that hard to believe. Saying someone is gross because they are white is as bad as if someone said someone was gross because they weren’t.

CC: Stooooooooop. Stop and look at your fucking life. You mean to tell me you saw the fucking post where I said “ew” about Janet Varney but you didn’t see the ask RIGHT AFTER IT that asked me WHY I said “ew”? And you didn’t see MY ANSWER, where I said it’s because THE OTHER MODS AND MYSELF FEEL SHE’S A HORRIBLE VOICE ACTRESS? Are you fucking kidding me right now? 

I’d probably be a lot nicer about this if I didn’t find myself CONSTANTLY ASSURING WHITE PEOPLE I DON’T HATE THEM. It is RIDICULOUS that I need to do so. I don’t hate white people, I hate whiteness. White supremacy. The two are not the same and don’t fucking conflate them. NO WHERE did I bash ANYONE for the color of their skin.

Now ask yourself “why did I assume that the mod said ‘ew’ because of Varney’s skin color? Where was it indicated that Varney was hated because she’s white? And WHY did I ignore any subsequent messages that cleared up why the mod dislikes Varney?”

Why the fuck are yall so paranoid, eh? Yah think I’m gonna get uppity (yes, a white person has called us uppity before) and start throwing watermelons and buckets of chicken at you?

Get out of my sight.

If you’re following us, unfollow. We don’t fucking want you.

May 30, 201210 notes
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Maybe you should remove the Yuumei post, because she wasn't whitewashing, her skin look lighter by the lighting of the fire and her arm is not whitewashed.

Marco: Korra is brown. Brown doesn’t melt under fire.

May 29, 20129 notes
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The whole thing with Latin@ versus Hispanic is incredibly complex and most of the time has to be judged on a case by case basis. Since the term Hispanic (aside from emphasizing the eurocentric) is problematic because it seeks to homogenize a TON of different cultures under an umbrella term a lot of people don't like using it. Some do. Personally I don't like either Latin@ or Hispanic, I prefer Mexican, Mexican-American or Chican@. But that's kind of what it is about, the need to define ourselves

Marco: I’m not on a computer so I can’t piece together both of the asks you sent, but I want you to know I read them! I was having a tough time with this conversation too because I always say I’m Salvadorean-American. The only time I identify as Latin@ or Hispanic is when I have to fill out a form, and that’s only if Central American isn’t listed as an option :/ I use Latin@ for the exact reasons why you said Hispanic is problematic, but in real life and online I always ask where a person is from specifically, out of respect. I think I’m rambling, but basically, on DLOTB, we will be using Latin@ when speaking in general terms, unless we’re focusing on specific groups obviously, like Afrolatin@s, Mestiz@s, etc, (I’m unsure of all the gender neutral terms, I’m sorry!) If we’re speaking one on one with a follower, please tell us what you prefer, if one of our mods hasn’t already asked.

May 29, 20123 notes
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okumuraminato:

Sorry to butt in, but isn’t this term kinda wrong too? Latino/latina basically means that we use a language derived from Latin (romance languages), and it doesn’t really take account of our Native heritage. If anything, mestizo would be more appropiate, but it kinda doesn’t sound right either.

Personally, I don’t find any problem with using Hispanic/Latin@/whatever as long as it’s not an offensive word. (Also , Latin@ includes people from Brazil too, while Hispanic doesn’t, js)

CC: Not to sound disrespectful but what do yall want?

If you don’t have a problem with Latin@, can I just use that to respect others who have a problem with Hispanic? Cause I’m running out of time and patience, I wanna play videogames and yall are running me around in circles.

May 29, 201249 notes
no one'll probably care, but i'm just popping by to warn people that while latin@ may be a catch-all solution, it is not something easily interchangeable with hispanic. case in point--i am latina, but not hispanic. i'm brasilian, so a better substitution would be portuguese. it's offensive when i select ''of latin descent'' in applications and everyone assumes i must be mexican (which is its own problem, but i live in texas, so yeah) anyway, just be aware that latin@ =/= hispanic!

CC: Well I knew this but thank you for sending this for others to understand!! Latinidad is complex.

May 29, 201210 notes
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littlegoldenapple replied to your post: I agree about using Latin@ rather than Hispanic. I -PERSONALLY- use Hispanic because I’m both Spanish and Cuban (my Spanish family members were brown and not white, but all the same) and I feel awkward using the term Latina for myself when I am also Spanish (it just doesn’t feel right). But, most Latin@s do not have the same background as me and many consider the term Hispanic to promote colonialism. I know this was pretty rambly and unhelpful, sorry.

VIVA CUBA!

CC:

 

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May 29, 20123 notes
#littlegoldenapple
I agree about using Latin@ rather than Hispanic. I -PERSONALLY- use Hispanic because I'm both Spanish and Cuban (my Spanish family members were brown and not white, but all the same) and I feel awkward using the term Latina for myself when I am also Spanish (it just doesn't feel right). But, most Latin@s do not have the same background as me and many consider the term Hispanic to promote colonialism. I know this was pretty rambly and unhelpful, sorry.

CC: No no, thank you for your opinion. (VIVA CUBA) :D

May 29, 20124 notes
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Oops, I went and reread the wording on my ask and it was pretty weird as you said - sorry about that. Anyway, I think what you're doing here is great and please don't stop. Until I found this blog I wasn't really noticing all the racism that was in media around me, but now I've started to call it out in my community and I really have to thank you for making me aware of that.

CC: No problem. :) Glad you like our blog.

May 29, 20123 notes
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annebeeche replied to your post: equalistsfuckshitup reblogged your post: holybat:…

I read it as Latinoa, rhyming with soh cah toa

CC: Either one should be fine, I’m assuming.

May 29, 20122 notes
#annebeeche
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